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CherryOS
http://www.cherryos.com (slashdotted at the moment)
What is this? Has anyone tried it?
What is this? Has anyone tried it?
I've just downloaded the manual: http://www.vx30.com/documents/CherryOS.pdf and it smells for me like someone is trying to sell PearPC comercially...[/url]
I've seen this as well, read the manual. I also saw a few posts on it in another forum where one guy apparently had a beta running for his company or something. He claimed about 1ghz G4 speeds with an Athlon 64 3400, which to me suggests slighly faster than PearPC. Another forum suggested it might be a code fork of PearPC with better MMU support. The site is slashdotted now, but if it's back up by the time I get home from work, I'll drop the $50 and test the sucker out.
[quote="ShadowFox"]He claimed about 1ghz G4 speeds with an Athlon 64 3400, which to me suggests slighly faster than PearPC.[/quote]
I ve tested PearPC (JIT/P4) on a Intel P4 3.2Ghz and the (well don't blame)
"About MacOS" panel tell me values from 1.15Ghz to 1.35Ghz (i know i can't trust the cpu monitor, but well how did CherryOS do that ? :) the system was *usable* (well menu/etc).
it's strange that no powerpc emulator came out in the last +4 years and now two software in last 6 months.
site still /.d, i will look at it, even try it... until i realize that what i really want is a real Macintosh :)
I ve tested PearPC (JIT/P4) on a Intel P4 3.2Ghz and the (well don't blame)
"About MacOS" panel tell me values from 1.15Ghz to 1.35Ghz (i know i can't trust the cpu monitor, but well how did CherryOS do that ? :) the system was *usable* (well menu/etc).
it's strange that no powerpc emulator came out in the last +4 years and now two software in last 6 months.
site still /.d, i will look at it, even try it... until i realize that what i really want is a real Macintosh :)
Cherry OS is completely based on the PearPC code. In the demo video for Cherry OS, there a window that when Cherry is starting, flashes some red and yellow text. After trying to hit pause on it a few times, I found out that the text is the same that comes up when booting PearPC:
So...we wondered what PearPC would be like if it was a paid development project, and this is pretty much that, unless it's vapor-ware.2 bootable partition(s) found:
1. partition 9 of 'cdrom0' (disk image/Apple_HFS)
2. partition 2 of 'cdrom0' (Apple_HFS_Untiled_2/Apple_HFS)
Booting 1: 'cdrom0:9'...
direct: trying to load '[->0x40dc00,0xc1000] of ide1'
now stating client...
That's fairly generic text... I've gotten qemu to boot up with text like that under ppc emulation. I'm not holding my breath about this, but it might be pretty cool to check out. I saw in the manual one of the screenshots showed something about "Mac Classic," so it might be possible this can boot previous versions of MacOS as well- something PearPC can't do. I'll still wait until it's non-slashdotted, and grab a copy. Maybe this is the first product to be based on QuickTransit?willhart wrote:Cherry OS is completely based on the PearPC code. In the demo video for Cherry OS, there a window that when Cherry is starting, flashes some red and yellow text. After trying to hit pause on it a few times, I found out that the text is the same that comes up when booting PearPC:
So...we wondered what PearPC would be like if it was a paid development project, and this is pretty much that, unless it's vapor-ware.2 bootable partition(s) found:
1. partition 9 of 'cdrom0' (disk image/Apple_HFS)
2. partition 2 of 'cdrom0' (Apple_HFS_Untiled_2/Apple_HFS)
Booting 1: 'cdrom0:9'...
direct: trying to load '[->0x40dc00,0xc1000] of ide1'
now stating client...
Who knows, we'll just have to wait to find out. It would corroborate the 80% claim from CherryOS, as QuickTransit claims 80% performance of the host proc as well...
everyone take a look at this:
http://www.cherryos.com/faq.html
http://www.cherryos.com/faq.html
I don't believe it.
And I first have to see it.
At least Cherry Os (be it fake or not) accomplished
one hot forum thread both here on emaculation, pearpc.net and Aquasoft.
Guess we'll have to wait, won't we?
But wouldn't it be great if one day (hopefully way before the Pentium10's or AMD Athlon 64 6000+'s see the light of day), we'd be able to run OS X on x86...
And I first have to see it.
At least Cherry Os (be it fake or not) accomplished
one hot forum thread both here on emaculation, pearpc.net and Aquasoft.
Guess we'll have to wait, won't we?
But wouldn't it be great if one day (hopefully way before the Pentium10's or AMD Athlon 64 6000+'s see the light of day), we'd be able to run OS X on x86...
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Cherry OS features are bull!
In all the screenshots, the sound is on mute, just like PearPC is without sound. The features that I find hardest to beleive are Full Sound, Drag & Drop, Firewire, and USB. VirtaulPC has hardly acheived that level of emulation, and it's an expensive, full development project.What can CherryOS do?
* Drag & drop files from PC to Mac
* Create multiple profiles
* Full Sound & Networking support
* Skin enabled GUI
eh... 'bout the same as PearPC...Please be patient with the Apple OS installation; depending on your system it may take up to 1 or 3 hours to finish installation.
now that's better!"It's like running OS X on my G3 laptop," Kryeziu explained. "There's some pauses, but it's not too bad."
Kryeziu said on a 3.2-GHz Pentium 4 desktop with 1 GB of RAM, the software is as snappy as native Apple hardware.
"On a fast system, it's just as fast as running on a Mac," he said.
hmm...Kryeziu said CherryOS runs to 36,000 lines of code and was inspired by open-source Mac emulator PearPC, but is not in any way based on it.
Well I looked in the store bit and they are taking preorders, no CC details just name, address style thing. I sigfned up with some details (not mine but in some students name iwho I still get mail for) I think this is definite nullshit.
VMware doesn't give a consistent 80% of performance and neither does virtualpc (Windows) so I cannot see an complete emulated system being able to outperform either of these programs.
I suspect they'll never release a product.
VMware doesn't give a consistent 80% of performance and neither does virtualpc (Windows) so I cannot see an complete emulated system being able to outperform either of these programs.
I suspect they'll never release a product.
Let us just wait and see what happens.
If it does go into sale, let's check it out and see if
it lives up to it's promisses. If it does, we should verify that it really isn't hacked PearPC coding. If it is, let us claim & implement improvements into PearPC and benifit from it.
If not, see how Cherry has overcome the troubles faced with the current PearPC builts (in terms of speed improvement, hardware-detection, e.a.).
And learn from it. [/b]
If it does go into sale, let's check it out and see if
it lives up to it's promisses. If it does, we should verify that it really isn't hacked PearPC coding. If it is, let us claim & implement improvements into PearPC and benifit from it.
If not, see how Cherry has overcome the troubles faced with the current PearPC builts (in terms of speed improvement, hardware-detection, e.a.).
And learn from it. [/b]
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its a fake!
Look at the scroll bars!!!
near the left of the supposed emulated display is a window frame. and above that a few pixels of white. I'm assuming all they've built is a way of displaying a couple of windows near the top and to the left of a PearPC window, if that.
I'm more inclinded to assume the screenshots are fake.
amost every screenshot the scroll bars are in the same place:
http://www.cherryos.com/images/screenshots/4.jpg
http://www.cherryos.com/images/screenshots/5.jpg
http://www.cherryos.com/images/screenshots/7.jpg
my assumption is that its just a front end for pearpc.
Look at the scroll bars!!!
near the left of the supposed emulated display is a window frame. and above that a few pixels of white. I'm assuming all they've built is a way of displaying a couple of windows near the top and to the left of a PearPC window, if that.
I'm more inclinded to assume the screenshots are fake.
amost every screenshot the scroll bars are in the same place:
http://www.cherryos.com/images/screenshots/4.jpg
http://www.cherryos.com/images/screenshots/5.jpg
http://www.cherryos.com/images/screenshots/7.jpg
my assumption is that its just a front end for pearpc.
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How about this scenario:
The company decided to promote their video player, so they attracted people with the help of a fake PowerPC emulator, which doesn't even exist. The campaign is free and sooo powerfull, it has blown away their website (with a little help of /. and others). There will be nothing to accuse them of officialy, because it's not a crime, but their video player won't be left without a notice.
It's just a wild thought, I'm probably wrong.
The company decided to promote their video player, so they attracted people with the help of a fake PowerPC emulator, which doesn't even exist. The campaign is free and sooo powerfull, it has blown away their website (with a little help of /. and others). There will be nothing to accuse them of officialy, because it's not a crime, but their video player won't be left without a notice.
It's just a wild thought, I'm probably wrong.
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You could be right there. , but using a fake PPC emulator to promote a video player is a bit of a daft idea, but the PPC emulator has certainly had a lot of attention.felaras wrote:How about this scenario:
The company decided to promote their video player, so they attracted people with the help of a fake PowerPC emulator, which doesn't even exist. The campaign is free and sooo powerfull, it has blown away their website (with a little help of /. and others). There will be nothing to accuse them of officialy, because it's not a crime, but their video player won't be left without a notice.
It's just a wild thought, I'm probably wrong.
Those screenshots are pretty damn consistent, to the pixel where the error is every time. Maybe it is BAD GUI CODING? I don't know if this is a pearpc front end or not but if it is and they are trying to sell it....well, that is pretty damn lame.
If it isnt, and if sound works, I will be very happy!
If it isnt, and if sound works, I will be very happy!
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